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chaos Manipulation

ceilidh_chaos — Mon, 31 May 2004 03:55:12 GMT

Chaos manipulation
(thing) by Mad haTTer (3.5 mon) (print) ? 1 C! Sun Feb 04 2001 at 19:27:07

The first thing to remember about chaos manipulation is: You cannot control the path of chaos only the destination. I have studied chaos for many years, I can orchestrate chaos. One would be wise to always remember that chaos is alive and unpredictable. When attempting to manipulate chaos, know that chaos is the essence of randomness. Chaos rarely will leave its user untouched by its hand of random intervention. If you plan to manipulate chaos then be advised: You will receive all the energy you expel, but when it returns it will certainly be altered.
The rules of karma still apply to chaos however; anything you do will return on you three fold.
Basic introduction aside let's go through the steps for chaos manipulation.
Step 1.

Forget all the rules pertaining to your life thus far (If you have already come to the conclusion that anything is possible based on personal will power- skip to step 3). You must attain a completely open mind for everything, chaos with its nature includes everything.(this is why i am going to actively try to soft link the node everywhere I can)
Step 2.

Once you have an expandable mind, then understand the world is a pliable thing. Reality is relative to your perception of your world. Your perception in fueled by your will to believe (this is the reason for step #1.) Imagination and creative energy directed into a belief that anything you will to happen can, will put the world in your hands.
Step 3.

Now that you have the ability to craft your will into reality, you can begin to manipulate things... Chaos is a difficult thing to understand, so before you begin to manipulate things, observe. Take your can of mind fuck and chill in a corner and watch. Step 3. Is about observation and learning. Learn all you can start small: instigate chaos at first, then watch it go! Practice makes perfect, perfect chaos that is. Once you have a basic understanding of how chaos works then move to step 4.
Step 4.

Once you have attained the basic ability too fully observe chaos and track its path, then you can begin to try directing it. This is done by focusing your energy and will to a specific path or spot intended for chaos to fall. You can will chaos you instigate to be chaotic and endup at the destination you desire. Remember you cannot pick the path of chaos only its destination.
Step 5.

Once you have mastered directing chaos then you are not too far from manipulating chaos. Manipulation of chaos is the same concept as directing; only on a larger more multi faceted scale. When you're focusing on one target-err I mean victim, or destination, try focusing on a second (A third if you are a fast learner). That is the basic idea. Mass focusing of energy means mass amounts of chaos. The next level after this would be to orchestrate chaos

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Who is Eris?

ceilidh_chaos — Mon, 31 May 2004 04:38:11 GMT

ERIS was the personification of strife, discord and hatred. She lurked around the battlefield delighting in bloodshed and suffering.
Because of Eris' disagreeable nature she was the only one of the gods not invited to the wedding of Peleus and Thetis. She came anyway and was refused admittance. Furious, Eris threw a golden apple, inscribed 'To the fairest', among the guests. Three goddesses claimed it and the result of the judgement led directly to the Trojan War.

Eris goddess of strife and Enyo goddess of war were one nad the same in early literature, but later authors described them as two separate and distinct goddesses.

Parents

(1) NYX (Theogony 225)The winged Goddess of Night
(2) ZEUS & HERA (called the sister of Ares) (Iliad 4.441, Quintus Smyrnaeus 10.51)
(3) EREBOS & NYX (Hyginus Pref)

Offspring

(1) PONOS, LETHE, LIMOS, THE ALGEA, THE HYSMINAI, THE MAKHAI, THE PHONOI, THE ANDROKTASIAI, THE NEIKEA, THE LOGOI, THE AMPHILOGIAI, DYSNOMIA, ATE, HORKOS (no father) (Theogony 226)
(2) ENYALIOS (Enyo by Ares) (Eustathius on Homer 944 &/or Roman Antiquities)

"Also deadly Nyx bare .. hateful Geras and hard-hearted Eris." -Theogony 225

"But abhorred Eris bare painful Ponos (Toil), and Lethe (Forgetfulness), and Limos (Starvation), and the Algea (Pains), full of weeping, the Hysminai (Fightings) and the Makhai (Battles), the Phonoi (Murders) and the Androktasiai (Man-slaughters), the Neikea (Grievances), the Logoi (Lies), the Amphilogiai (Disputes), and Dysnomia (Lawlessness) and Ate (Ruin), who share one another's natures, and Horkos (Oath) who does more damage than any other to earthly men, when anyone, of his knowledge, swears to a false oath " –Theogony 226

"For ere this [the arrival of Pandora on the earth] the tribes of men lived on earth remote and free from ills and hard toil and heavy sickness which bring the Fates upon men; for in misery men grow old quickly. But the woman [Pandora] took off the great lid of the jar with her hands and scattered all these [the harmful daimones offspring of Eris] and her thought caused sorrow and mischief to men. Only Elpis (Hope) remained there in an unbreakable home within under the rim of the great jar, and did not fly out at the door; for ere that, the lid of the jar stopped her, by the will of Aegis-holding Zeus who gathers the clouds. But the rest, countless plagues, wander amongst men; for earth is full of evils and the sea is full. Of themselves diseases come upon men continually by day and by night, bringing mischief to mortals silently; for wise Zeus took away speech from them. So is there no way to escape the will of Zeus." -Works & Days 54-105

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ERIS GODDESS OF THE STRIFE OF WAR

Eris was insatiable in her desire for bloodshed, and after all the other gods had withdrawn from the battlefield, she still remained rejoicing over the havoc that had been made.

"Ares drove these [the Trojans] on, and the Akhaians grey-eyed Athene, and Phobos (Terror) drove them, and Deimos (Fear), and Eris (Hate) whose wrath is relentless, she is the sister and companion of murderous Ares, she who is only a little thing at the first, but thereafter grows until she strides on the earth with her head striking heaven. She then hurled down bitterness equally between both sides as she walked through the onslaught making men's pain heavier." -Iliad 4.441

"Their fighting work [was woken by] ... man-slaughtering Ares, and Eris, whose wrath is relentless." -Iliad 5.518

"After the Olympians merged in the men's company [on the battlefield] strong Eris, defender of peoples, burst out." -Iliad 20.48

"Zeus sent down in speed to the fast ships of the Akhaians the wearisome goddess Eris, holding in her hands the portent of battle. She took her place on the huge-hollowed black ship of Odysseus which lay in the middle, so that she could cry out to both flanks ... There the goddess took her place, and cried out a great cry and terrible and loud, and put strength in all the Akhaians hearts, to go on tirelessly with their fighting of battles." -Iliad 11.3

"The pressure held their [the battling warriors] heads on a line, and they whirled and fought like wolves, and Eris, the Lady of Sorrow, was gladdened to watch them. She alone of all the immortals attended this action [the other gods had been commanded by Zeus to withdraw from this stage of the Trojan War]." -Iliad 11.73

"Dread Eris, marshalling the slaughter of fighting men, cruel spirit, who took the senses and perception out of those fighters who tried to fight in the face of Zeus' son, [Ares] the War God, and the souls of these went under the ground, to the house of Hades." -Shield of Herakles 148

"The other [Eris] is hateful. The two Erites have separate natures. There is one Eris who builds up evil war, and slaughter. She is harsh; no man loves her, but under compulsion and by will of the immortals, men promote this rough Eris (Strife)." -Works and Days 11

"Her [the Amazon Penthesilea] strong right hand laid hold on a huge halberd, sharp of either blade, which terrible Eris gave to Ares' child to be her Titan weapon in the strife [of the Trojan War] that raveneth souls of men." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 1.158

"As flasheth far through war-hosts Eris, waker of onset-shouts." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 1.180

"Who is so aweless - daring, who is clad in splendour-flashing arms: nay, surely she shall be Athene, or the mighty-souled Enyo - haply Eris." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 1.365

"And there [depicted on the shield of Akhilleus] were man-devouring wars, and all horrors of fight ... Phobos (Panic) was there, and Deimos (Dread), and ghastly Enyo with limbs all gore-bespattered hideously, and deadly Eris (Strife)." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 5.25

"The Kentauroi round the hall of Pholos: goaded on by Eris (Strife) and wine, with Herakles the monsters fought." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 6.274

"Hard by them [Neoptolemos & Eurypylos in combat] stood Enyo, spurred them on ceaselessly: never paused they from the strife ... Eris (Strife) incarnate watched and gloated o'er them." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 8.186

"So man to man dealt death [in the Trojan War]; and joyed the Keres (Fates) and Moros (Doom), and fell Eris (Strife) in her maddened glee shouted aloud, and Ares terribly shouted in answer, and with courage thrilled the Trojans, and with panic fear the Greek." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 8.324

"The Keres (Deaths) exulted over them [the men dying in battle]; deadly Eris (Strife) shrieked out a long wild cry from host to host. With blood of slain men dust became red mire." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 9.145

"But the sons of men fought on, and slew; and Eris (Strife incarnate) gloating watched." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 9.324

"To one place Eris (Strife incarnate) drew them all, the fearful Battle-queen, beheld of none, but cloaked in clouds blood-raining: on she stalked swelling the mighty roar of battle, now rushed through Troy's squadrons, through Akhaia's now; Phobos (Panic) and Deimos (Fear) still waited on her steps to make their father's [Ares'] sister glorious. From small to huge that Fury's stature grew; her arms of adamant were blood-besprent, the deadly lance she brandished reached the sky. Earth quaked beneath her feet: dread blasts of fire flamed from her mouth: her voice pealed thunder-like kindling strong men. Swift closed the fronts of fight drawn by a dread Power to the mighty work." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 10.51

"The Akhaians pressed hard on the Trojans even unto Troy. Yet these charged forth -- they could not choose but so, for Eris (Strife) and deadly Enyo in their midst stalked, like the fell Erinnyes to behold, breathing destruction from their lips like flame. Beside them raged the ruthless-hearted Keres (Fates) fiercely: here Phobos (Panic-fear) and Ares there stirred up the hosts: hard after followed Deimos (Dread)." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 11.7

"The black Keres (Fates) joyed to see their conflict [the Greeks & The Trojans], Ares laughed, Enyo yelled horribly. With corpses earth was heaped, with torrent blood was streaming: Eris (Strife incarnate) o'er the slain gloated." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 11.151

"Still on Troy's folk the Argives wreaked their wrath [when Troy was sacked], and battle's issues Eris (Strife Incarnate) held." -Quintus Smyrnaeus 13.562

“Eris infernal monster” - Greek Lyric II Alcman Frag 146

"With the gluttonous mouth of Eris (Strife) will one day arm for battle against me." -Greek Lyric III Ibycus Frag 311

“[Depicted on the chest of Cypselus at Olympia] Aias is fighting a duel with Hektor, according to the challenge, and between the pair stands Eris in the form of a most repulsive woman. Another figure of Eris is in the sanctuary of Ephesian Artemis; Kalliphon of Samos included it in his picture of the battle at the ships of the Greeks.” –Pausanias 5.19.1

"Here [at the porch and entrance to Hades] dwells ... lunatic Eris whose viperine hair is caught up with a headband soaked in blood." -Aeneid 6.280

"Here [in battle] Eris strides exulting in her torn mantle." -Aeneid 8.702

“[Medea casts a spell of discord over Jason's helmet] 'Come now,’ she says, ‘take again the crested helm which Discordia [Eris] haled but now in her death-bringing hand. When thou hast turned the sods [sowing the Drakon's teeth], hurl this into the midst of the harvest [of armed earth-born men]: straightway shall all the troop turn upon themselves in rage, and my father himself shall cry aloud in wonder, and turn his gaze mayhap on me.” –Valerius Flaccus 7.468

“Not long since that first of goddesses [Dike goddess of Justice] had no throne even among men, but noisy riots and raging ruin of destroying War (Ares) and Strife (Eris), giver of pain, nurse of tearful wars, consumed the unhappy race of the creatures of a day.” –Halieutica 2.654

“And Enyo, revelling in the drunkenness of unmixed blood [at the slaughter of the Sack of Troy], danced all night throughout the city, like a hurricane, turbulent with the waves of the surging war. And therewithal Eris (Strife) lifted her head high as heaven and stirred up the Argives; since even bloody Ares, late but even so, came and brought to the Danaans the changeful victory in war.” –Tryphiodorus 560

“To both armies alike [those of Kadmos of Thebes & the Aionians] Eris (Strife) joined Enyo and brought forth tumult.” –Dionysiaca 5.40

“[When the monster Typhoeus & Zeus engaged in battle] Eris (Strife) was Typhon’s escort in the mellay, Nike (Victory) led Zeus into battle … impartial Enyo held equal balance between the two sides, between Zeus and Typhon, while the thunderbolts with booming shots revel like dancers in the sky” –Dionysiaca 2.358 & 2.475

“A dream came to Bakkhos – Eris (Discord) the nurse of war, in the shape of Rheia the loverattle goddess, seated in what seemed to be her lionchariot. Phobos (Rout) drove the team of this dreamchariot, in the counterfeit shape of Attis with limbs like his; he formed the image of Kybele’s charioteer, a softskinned man in looks with shrill tones like the voice of a woman. Gadabout Eris stood by the head of sleeping Bakkhos and reproached him with brawl-inciting voice:
‘You sleep, godborn Dionysos! Deriades [the Indian King] summons you to battle, and you make merry here! Stepmother Hera mocks you, when she sees your Enyo on the run, as you drag your army to dances! I am ashamed to show myself before Kronion, I shrink form Hera, I shrink from the immortals, because your doings are not worthy of Rheia. I avoid Ares, destroyer of the Titanes ... and I fear your sister still more .... flashhelm Pallas, because Athena too blames Bakkhos idle, the woman blames the man! Thyrsos yielded to goatskin, since once upon a time valiant Pallas holding the goatskin defended the gates of Olympos, and scattered the stormy assault of the Titanes, thus honouring the dexterous travail of her father’s head – but you disgrace the fruitful pocket in Zeus’s thigh! … The Virgin Archeress [Artemis] denounces Dionysos the dancer ... I shrink from Leto, still a proud braggart, when she holds up at me the arrow that defended her bed and slew Tityos the lustful giant. I am tortured also with double pain, when I see sorrowing Semele and proud Maia among the stars. You are not like a son of Zeus. You did not slay with an arrow threatening Otos and hightowering Ephialtes, no winged shaft of your destroyed Tityos, you did not kill that unhappy lover bold Orion, nor Hera’s guardian Argos, the cowkeeper, a son of the earth so fertile in evil, the spy on Zeus in his weddings with horned cattle! No, you weave your web of merriment with Stayphylos and Botrys, inglorious, unarmed, singing songs over the wine; you degrade the earthy generation of Satyroi, sine they also have touched the bloodless Bakkhanal dance and drowned all warlike hopes in their cups. There may be banquet after battle, there may be dancing after the Indian War in the palace of Staphylos; viols may let their voice be heard again after the victory in the field. But without hard work it is not possible to dwell in the inaccessible heavens. The road to the Blessed is not easy; noble deeds give the only path to the firmament of heaven by God’s decree. You too then, endure hardship of every kind. Hera for all her rancour foretells for you the heavenly court of Zeus.’
She spoke, and flew away. The god leapt from his bed, with the terrible sound of that threatening dream still in his ears [and returned to his war with the Indians].” –Dionysiaca 20.35

“Deathly Ares [in Dionysos’ war against the Indians] shouted as loud as nine thousand, with Eris (Discord) moving by his side to support him; in the battle he placed Phobos (Rout) and Deimos (Terror) to wait upon Deriades [the Indian King].” –Dionysiaca 32.175

from http://www.theoi.com/Khaos/Eris.html

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beginning chaos lessons - blog style

Ashe-keilla — Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:58:44 GMT

if any are interested, i'm posting some basic beginner classes on dealing with & handling chaos. they will all be under the title of "musings on chaos" on my blog, & to start with i'm dealing with meditation. this helps one to understand their OWN energy, so that they can more easily identify what isn't their energy. without this knowledge, it's very hard to deal with chaos in any fashion.
i hope this can be helpful & that it offends no one. if more is wanted, contact me directly. i also enjoy feedback, so let me know what your opions are.

have a great time dancing with chaos! >:}

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Pantheacon Discordian Rituals

ceilidh_chaos — Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:05:57 GMT

I had a great time @ the High Discordian Mass of ERis & The Dionysus/Morrisson Rit. Both were great! Any comments I know some of you were there

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As the 23rd member...

Malaul — Mon, 30 Jan 2006 04:37:23 GMT

of this lil tribe, I wanna say hello, and thank you for welcoming me!

::waves::

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Introducing...

lasara — Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:56:53 GMT

myself. Not much to say, except that our lovely moderator invited me aboard a while back and I jumped on. I have not been available to get involved until today, and my computer time waxes and wanes.

I am interested in seeing what this group is like. I tend to be a loner to a large extent as far as magick is concerned, though I am an initiate of the Hellenic mysteries, and many others...and perform large group ritual. Love it, too.

My more every-day ritual is more on the chaos wave-length...not all easily explained, but I work a lot with sigil casting, blood magick, runes paired with cutting, intention setting, and every once in a while a tumble head first into the abyss. For reals. It's happened without bidding since I was young. Not always fun, but usually worth the trip.

I am not a speaker of mathematics, but love chaos theory. Living systems theory also makes a lot of sense to me. Biopsychology, existentialism, anarchism and Neruo-Linguistic programming are all solid building blocks for me.

I know that chaos magick is often about dissembling those blocks, but that is the natural impetus for me. My grasp on "reality" is pretty damn fluid. I have an easy time changing my mind. Really changing it. Like, from the ground up. It's finding ways to maintain my grasp and build some pillars and walls where I need to work. And have worked at it already for years.

I just got back from a better than two weeks road trip, presenting workshops in many major northwestern cities. (If you wanna see what I do you can check out my site at <http://www.lasara.us>) Away from my home, my kids, my partner for a tour...and when I'm on the road, Chaos always rides shotgun. I am a big fan of The Ride as a spiritual initiation. I leave as one thing, and return as another. So, coming out from under a big wave of chaos, currently.

Thanks for being here.

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Pantheacon?

ceilidh_chaos — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:11:22 GMT

I'll be there, will you? What are you excited about? Teaching? Etc? Clue us all in.

I hear the Dionysus/Morrison Rit is going to Rock

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23 Members neat!

ceilidh_chaos — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:10:18 GMT

5 is Eris' sacred # and she's thrilled there are 23 of us here woohoo!

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illogical fear

marjorievolin — Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:24:28 GMT

for some reason i've got this thing in my head that doing magick while pregnant is bad. i was considering doing a little cleansing ritual, because i've got two different problems that may have the same source, and although it's a mere annoyance, i'd kind of like to take care of it. anyone heard anything on the increased likelihood of miscarriage due to magick practice?

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POLL: Do you think there are consequences to magick in general & chaos majik in specific?

ceilidh_chaos — Sun, 06 Jun 2004 04:54:48 GMT

I think that any energy you put out into the universe returns in one form or another, maybe not even in this lifetime, however. What do youthink?

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Chaos Majik~ Y do boyz get their panties in a twist about grrlz with opinions on it?

ceilidh_chaos — Wed, 02 Jun 2004 06:38:59 GMT

so I've been posting on the chaos Magick tribe and all the boyz on there totally got bent out of shape that I disagreed with them about the consequences of Chaos Magick. They seemed to think that there aren't any. I on the other hand think that any majikal action has a reaction and chaos is just as likely if not more so to turn around and bite your butt. I mean if you make a Tsunami of Chaos, it might just bring a little wave back that takes out your porch, who knows. Ok so continuing on, on of the guys actually said "stick to basket weaving" And when i called him on his misogyny he was all no no i like women and not as objects or conquests. My feeling whenever I posted on that tribe was that they liked grrlz fyne as long as they were newbies askin fora dvice, but should you disagree with the male status quo they are totally ready to jump on your ass, cuss @ you in private msg (which one of them did, separate from th misogynist commentator) and then accused ME of taking the cnversation into the personal *sigh* Am i taking this too serious? Or are they rilly a$$e$, I'm leaning toward the latter. I've decided not to post on that tribe anymore

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This is me jumping up & down in excitement

ceilidh_chaos — Wed, 09 Jun 2004 05:37:20 GMT

you all rock woooooo hoooooooo!!! We are grrlz and we do chaos!!!!! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I know simple pleasures

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bad chaos joke

ceilidh_chaos — Mon, 31 May 2004 07:25:13 GMT

Eris, Loki, and Coyote walk into a bar the bartender looks up and says

Order, please.

Insert laugh track here

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